Gaining over-all mass - no holds bar

Posted January 31st, 2008 by Ravinous

I'll be trying to gain as much mass as possible with no real concern for fat gains or loss, or body shape. I'll be using the see-food dieting technique for the most part. Most of my calories will come from my carbs & i'll try to maintain the ratio of carbs:protein:fats to 50-60:30-40:15-20 percent. Here's a list of foods I intend to eat for the most part but believe me, it WILL vary! My training times will vary as well based on what time I wake up on Sundays & Tuesdays.

Protein sources:
Beef
Chicken
Fish
Lamb
Buffalo
Whole eggs

Carbs:
Raw Oats
Pasta
Brown rice
White rice
Sweet potatoes
White potatoes
Yams
Bread

Veges:
EVERYTHING!

Fruits:
Mostly bananas
Pineapple
Apples
Oranges & tangerines

Junk food/snacks:
Probably Wendey's tripple classic combo
Cake
Cookies
Yogurt
mixed nuts & fruit

BUFFET RESTAURANT ON WEEKENDS!!!
(this has to be in a category all on its own)

Most importantly, I try to drink at least 3 litres of water everyday. At most, 4 litres

For the most part, i'll be trying to consume as much beef as I can & i'll be eating every 4 hours to keep my metabolism slow. Here's what my typical day will look like...

8am
1.5 cups oats
3 whole eggs
orange juice

12 noon
6oz beef
1.5 cups pasta/rice/potato
Mixed veges
Juice or water

4pm
4 scoops Cytogainer in homoginized milk
1 Banana

8 or 10pm (depending on my training day)
same as above, but add 1/4 cup blackberries

11pm
6oz beef
1.5 cups pasta/rice/potato
Mixed veges
Juice or water

*** I don't usually take shakes back-to-back. So just switch the 4pm meal with the 8-10pm meal.

Check out my training program in the "workout programs" section of this forum. Feel free to tell me what you think so far.

March 15th

On March 15th, 2008 Ravinous says:

Woke up early enough, but something's missing... my drive!

7:30am
oatmeal in homo milk - again I could only finish half of this, & I didn't even bother to make any eggs.

I plan to eat exactly the same things at the same times I did yesterday, but i'm going to try eating a lesser amount at a time & see what happens: 10:30am, 2pm, 5pm, 7pm...

I hope to get some inspiration from Jay Cutler tonight. God knows I need it right now!

There we go!

On March 15th, 2008 Stevers says:

Yeah man, with all these joint problems I'm getting bummed out with lifting... its harder to get the drive

well

On March 17th, 2008 bchenk says:

when we get knocked down, what do we need to do?

GET BACK UP!!! time to switch it up change the routines to fit our problems.. lets go fellas!!!!! see it, achieve it!
we gotta overcome the obsticals in life thats what seperate us from every one else!!!!

Bobby
- if you let your fears keep you from flying, you will never reach your high-

I was up alright...

On March 17th, 2008 Ravinous says:

I did legs yesterday with slightely lighter weights on just the leg extentions. Everything else went up including my squats. I just felt stronger! I also took shorter breaks, & squeezed the hell out of each & every rep for each & every single exercise. Something just clicked in me & I wanted to crawl out of that gym yesterday swollen more than ever before. Lets just say that when I went to change, my legs looked like they grew 2 inches wider. The joke is that now I can't move them. lolol

March 14th

On March 15th, 2008 Ravinous says:

7:30am
2 cups oatmeal with ground flax seeds
4 eggs scrambled
1 glass orange juice
(couldn't finish all my oats & eggs today for some reason)

10:30am
6 oz beef
2 cups brown rice & barley
1 slice pineapple
1 apple

2:30pm
same as above plus 1 tangerine
(sad thing is that I wasn't that hungry & could only get down half)

5:30pm
cyto in 2% milk
1 banana

I got home at 9:30pm & had already missed a meal. I was hungry as hell, so I boiled up 1.5 cups oatmeal in homo milk & downed 2 packets of sliced turkey breast before going to bed at 11:30pm.

March 13th

On March 13th, 2008 Ravinous says:

7:30am
2 cups oatmeal with ground flax seeds
4 eggs scrambled
1 glass orange juice

10:30am
6 oz beef
1 large sweet potato
1 slice pineapple

2pm
same as above!

5:30pm
cyto in 2% milk

10pm
same as above

11pm
1 cup ground beef
1 cup brown rice with barley
1 slice pineapple

It's back day!!

Nice

On March 14th, 2008 Stevers says:

Gotta love that pineapple in there for protein digestion!!!
4 Whole eggs? Or a mix of whole/whites? I would guess since its you, they might be whole cuz you need the calories!

Oh yea!

On March 14th, 2008 Ravinous says:

I get 1 whole pineapple per week just because of the beef. I slice it up & put it in a bowl in the fridge & each time I eat beef, I take a slice. Tryin to stretch it a bit. And yea, you're sure right about the whole eggs. Cholestorol & all! lol. But I think I need a better vits/mins supplement though. Something with more antioxidants. I have a feeling that i'll need more & more the heavier I get.

March 12th

On March 12th, 2008 Ravinous says:

Woke up really early today...

5:30am
oatmeal with ground flax seeds

8am
a little chicken with some white rice (not much)

11am
cyto in homo milk

1:30pm
1 cup ground beef
1.5 cups brown rice with barley

6:30pm
same as above

9pm
same as above (if there's any left - lol)

11pm
cyto in homo milk... I keep forgetting that damn peanut butter!!

LOL

On March 14th, 2008 Stevers says:

You love ground beef!!

Whats the content of the cytosport stuff? Is it just whey or is it muscle milk?

Well...

On March 14th, 2008 Ravinous says:

My wife bought the ground beef this time. It just so happens that this particular one is not as lean as the one I get sometimes. But i'll use it anyway... lol. I'd much rather meat slabs. I think I mentioned before, but I can get 3 servings of 6-8oz of beef for about $6 here, strip loin slabs.

The cytogainer is a weight gainer that has l-glutamine, creatine, taurine, protein, carbs, & vits/mins. It's loaded with I think 560kls per serving with low fat milk. It's not like muscle milk. Muscle milk has something in it, i'm told, that helps with the absorbtion of creatine. I don't know for sure, but it's too expensive for me to be on at this point. But I heard it's really good.

March 11th

On March 12th, 2008 Ravinous says:

8:30am
oatmeal with gound flax seeds

11:30am
cytogainer with homo milk

3:30pm
same as above

5:30pm
300g chicken
2 cups brown rice

7:30pm
6 oz beef
1/2 cup brown rice

10pm
cyto in homo milk

March 10th

On March 10th, 2008 Ravinous says:

Today has been a great eating day so far. It's just past 3pm. Read on...

7:30am
2 cups oatmeal with ground flax seeds in homo milk
3 whole eggs scrambled

10:30
1 large sweet potato
6 oz beef

2pm
same as above
1 apple

at 5pm i'll have
cytogainer vanilla shake in 2% milk
1 banana

8pm i'm gonna hit the gym & tear my legs up in a monster way (& my abs)

10pm i'll take in another monster shake

Maybe i'll have another meal when I get home, if i'm feeling for a snack. But I have to go shopping again tomorrow. I'm already out of groceries & I went shopping just last tuesday... DAMN it!!! Another road block.

LOL

On March 10th, 2008 Stevers says:

Lordy! Do you have a membership at Sam's Club or Costco's or whatever "Bulk Food" store there is up there in Canada?

We get a big box of oatmeal (two huge bags in each box) for $6.50 here, in total its about 9lbs of oatmeal per box LOL

I'll tell you something...

On March 10th, 2008 Ravinous says:

With eht canadian dollar value increasing, I always wonder WTF these people are doing to help the public save money. Do they really think that dropping tax by 1% & increasing income tax by whatever they took it to will help us? I pay almost $3 for a small bag of quaker oats. I don't know the size though. But I use about 4-5 bags per month. The great thing is that I can get a 50lb bag of brown rice for about $8-10, but it's not good quality. I just spent about $15 on sweet potatoes last week tuesday. They lasted until Saturday night. But that's only because I didn't use any until Wednesday. As for costo, I shop there every month. I'd go more often, but then I don't have a car to lug all that shit home by myself.

I'm tryin though. It's hard work, but i'm tryin! Don't even talk about eating when i'm not hungry... like right now. It's 4pm, i'm still stuffed, but my next meal is in an hour.

March 9th

On March 10th, 2008 Ravinous says:

8am
oatmeal

11am
protein shake

3:30pm
1.5 cups white rice & peas
1 cup chicken

7pm
same as above

11pm
protein shake in homo milk

March 8th

On March 10th, 2008 Ravinous says:

8:30am
oatmeal

11am
protein shake with homo milk

12:30pm
1 large sweet potato
300g chicken

6pm
protein shake in milk

10pm
1.5 cups rice & peas
1 cup goat
1 cup mutton

1am
protein shake in milk

By the way, i'm back on my cytogainer now. Let's see if I can pick back up where I left off...

no true mass?

On March 10th, 2008 Stevers says:

You dont think true mass did anything for you? The way im interpreting this is that it was actually worse and not "equal"... is that how you feel?

Yep!

On March 10th, 2008 Ravinous says:

That's exactly how I feel. True mass is crap in my opinion. It worked against me. See, i've been using cyto for years... I only chenged to see if the claims were true in true mass. Well, they weren't! Maybe they'll work for someone else.

March 7th

On March 7th, 2008 Ravinous says:

7:30am
2 cups oatmeal in homo milk & ground flax seeds
3 hard boiled eggs

10:30am
1 banana
1 apple

11am
True mass with water & 1 teasp l-glutamine

1pm
6 oz beef
1/2 large sweet potatoe
1 cup brown rice

4pm
8 oz beef
1/2 large sweet potatoe
1 cup brown rice

7pm
True mass with 2% milk & 1 teasp l-glutamine

9pm
chicken
2 cups brown rice
green salad

Mar. 6th

On March 6th, 2008 Ravinous says:

8:30am
2 cups oatmeal in homo milk & ground flax seeds
3 hard boiled eggs

11:30am
6 oz beef
1.5 large sweet potatoes

3:30pm
6 oz beef
1.5 large sweet potatoes

6pm
True mass with homo milk & 1 teasp l-glutamine

9-10pm
True mass with homo milk & 1 teasp l-glutamine

11-12 midnight
chicken
2 cups brown rice
green salad

If I wake up again during the night, i'll have another shake! (this will be #7) I'm callin you out on this one Steve... lol

Ravinous!!
I've decided to up every serving of carbs to 2 cups. I just have to make a bigger effort to make sure I don't run out of food, 'cause i'm noticing that what I eat in 2 days, the average person consumes in a week!

LOL

On March 7th, 2008 Stevers says:

Calling me out on what? How many meals I eat? Or the fact that I'm upping what I eat in the morning?

Well..

On March 7th, 2008 Ravinous says:

... this was before I saw what you typed yesterday. I noticed that you said I don't eat that much, so I just wanted to let you know that i'm steppin it up too. Just messin with ya!

Mar. 5th

On March 6th, 2008 Ravinous says:

9am
oatmeal with homo milk

10 am
200g chicken breast & salad... I was hungry as hell!

1pm
1 large sweet potato
6oz beef strip loin steak
1 apple

5pm
protein shake with 1 teasp. l-glutamine

7:30 - 8pm
1 large sweet potato
6oz beef strip loin steak

10pm
sweet potato
chicken breast
salad

1:30am
protein shake in homo milk

I'm switching back to my cytogainer. This True mass is crap!! I've already lost 4 lbs on it, size & some strength. I'm now down to 206lbs... but at least now I have my eating back to normal!

I cant say enough good

On March 6th, 2008 tripletdad says:

I cant say enough good things about that Cytogainer..I just love the stuff.

Yea...

On March 6th, 2008 Ravinous says:

I've been on it now for about 2 years. I just thought that BSN would be better. Boy I was wrong... & I wasn't even on it for more than 2 weeks!

I with you there my friend.

On March 13th, 2008 tripletdad says:

I with you there my friend. Once you find a product that works for you stick with it, there is no telling how much i have wasted just because of wild claims and pretty ads. I love Cytosports and Muscletech products. I use Cytosports carb drink also for recovery and before Krav Maga class and when I do the heavy bag routine.

Mar. 4th

On March 5th, 2008 Ravinous says:

8am
oatmeal in homo milk

12 noon
protein shake with 1 teasp. l-glutamine

6pm
protein shake with 1 teasp. l-glutamine

9pm
chicken (about 200g)
brown rice
1 small sweet potato

3am
protein shake with 1 teasp. l-glutamine

It was a rough day for eating but I still got it done. But it hampered my training somewhat...

**And just so you guys know, for the next 2.5 weeks i'll be consentrating on my abs alot more since i'm trying to get my stomach down by my birthday. So expect some changes in my diet... more meals per day for one. At the start of April, i'm going back to my eat anything @ anytime diet.

Mar 3rd

On March 3rd, 2008 Ravinous says:

9am
oatmeal with ground flax seeds... I finally did some shopping!
1 glass orange juice
1 teasp. l-glutamine

11am
protein shake in 2% milk

1:45pm
a beef pita wrap, same as Saturday

6:30pm
protein shake in water
1 teasp. l-glutamine

9pm
I have no idea what my wife is home cooking, but whatever it is, i'll have alot of it!!

12 midnight
protein shake with either water or milk & almond butter

Mar 2nd

On March 3rd, 2008 Ravinous says:

7:30am
protein shake with l-glutamine

1pm
300g chicken
fries
ceaser salad

4pm
protein shake with l-glutamine

8:30pm
Buffet restaurant... I don't even remember what I ate.

Whats with the time gaps?

On March 3rd, 2008 Stevers says:

Are you trying to slow down your metabolism?

Time gaps

On March 3rd, 2008 Ravinous says:

This weekend was stock taking at work bro. Plus, I was so exausted. I find that when i'm not rested, I can't eat as much. As if my body can't digest what I give it. So I have to rest up & hit it again. I didn't want to, but it had to be done. I'm not sick though. Thanks for your concern. I will be trying to slow down my metab again soon though, i've been getting into the habit of eating every 2-3 hours again & it's slowing down my progress. But i'll do it after my birthday. I need to get my stomach down a bit, then i'll get back to where I left off.

Mar. 1st

On March 1st, 2008 Ravinous says:

Well, today didn't start off very well...

8am
protein shake with almond butter, homo milk, mixed berries. 15 mins later, puked it all out!

11:10am
turkey & cheese sub
apple juice

5pm
beef in pita bread

7pm
I'll try to take in a protein shake in water

Geez

On March 3rd, 2008 Stevers says:

Were you sick? Or just ate too much? Hope you're feeling better by now

Feb. 29th

On March 1st, 2008 Ravinous says:

8am
protein shake with frozen fruits, almond butter, 1 teasp. l-glutamine, & homo milk

10am
turkey & cheese sub
apple juice

1pm
pasta with sausage
500ml 2% milk
1 banana

4pm
protein shake with 2% milk

Ok, now I feel guilty. I had another BK burger - tripple whopper at midnight. I think I need a cleanse...

Feb. 28th

On February 28th, 2008 Ravinous says:

8am
oatmeal with 1.5 scoops bsn true mass
1 teasp. l-glutamine

10am
cytogainer protein in 2% milk

1pm
1 cup chicken
1 cup white potato
green salad
1 HUGE ass apple... the biggest apple i've ever seen!

4pm
true mass in 2% milk
1 teasp. l-glutamine

10pm
true mass in 2% milk
1 teasp. l-glutamine

Now this is more like it! I like the true mass better I think because of the calorie content. But then, there's no glutamine & creatine in it. So I may have to rethink this move before I have to restock. And I still haven't gone shopping yet... DAMN!

Please dont take this wrong

On February 29th, 2008 tripletdad says:

Please dont take this wrong Rav, but the fact that you are eating triple hamburgers and look like you do SUCKS!! I dont like you very much anymore and I will be cussing you while I am eating my cottage cheese, chicken and rice!!! LOL! Keep it going my friend!!

LOL

On February 29th, 2008 Ravinous says:

I get this kind of thing all the time bro. lol All the time. But I understand. You keep doing your thing. I'm trying to bulk, so i'm gonna eat everything I can. The only thing is that my gut seems to be growing too. So i'm thinking I may need to cut back on something... I don't know.

Man...

On February 29th, 2008 Ravinous says:

It had to be done because I still haven't found the oportunity to go shopping yet. What?? Well, after jumping into bed shortly after my shake, I got the munchies. So when my wife came home & I wasn't asleep yet, she said she was craving a burger. With that said, I was up, my clothes were on & we were both out the door at 1am. lololol. I didn't know that burger king burgers were done on the grill... no more wendey's tripple classic for my ass! Needless to say, at 1am I had a tripple deccer burger (or whatever the heck it's called).

Well have fun shopping :-p

On February 29th, 2008 Stevers says:

Haha.. Bro you're too funny.. true mass must be good stuff, you took it twice in consecutive meals!!! (although the gap in time leads me to believe it was pre-post workout?

You're so right! But check

On February 29th, 2008 Ravinous says:

You're so right! But check the addition...

Feb. 27th

On February 28th, 2008 Ravinous says:

8am
oatmeal & protein powder

12 noon
pasta with tuna & egg whites

4pm
protein shake with 2% milk
1 cup bbq chicken
1 cup corn

11pm
bsn protein shake in water

As you can see, I didn't achieve my calorie goal here.

Great plan Rav. I love

On February 26th, 2008 tripletdad says:

Great plan Rav. I love Cytogainer it tastes great and I have been getting some really good results. I also like the CytoCarb that they produce.

Me too..

On February 27th, 2008 Ravinous says:

... but I just switched to True Mass because gnc didn't have my flavor when I went to get a new tub yesterday. What the heck. We'll see what happens...

Feb. 26th

On February 27th, 2008 Ravinous says:

Today started off great. Of course, I missed my last protein shake lastnight, but that's only because it took me an hour & a half to finish my dinner. But at least I got my rest. It's only 1:37pm now, but here's (was) the plan for today:

8am
2 cups oatmeal in homo milk
1.5 scoops of some cheap protein (thanks for the idea guys... I still haven't gone shopping yet. lol)

12noon
protein shake with 1 banana in skim milk

Well, after training, I went to hang out with my dad. So I wasn't really able to eat the way I wanted to although I was HUNGRY AS HELL!

1:30pm
A whole fish (all I know is that it was big as hell) I'd guess it was about equal to 3/4 of a chicken... maybe 450g. I have no idea

3pm
a bowl of cereal with milk (he had no oats... lol)

9pm
Went home & cooked about 3-4 cups pasta with 2 cans of tuna @ a 300ml carton of egg beaters. I had half of all that!

11pm
I went out & bought a new weight gainer to try out because GNC didn't have my vanilla flavor cytogainer.
"True Mass" mixed in water. It's more calories per serving, so we'll see what happens over the next few weeks...

Feb. 25th

On February 25th, 2008 Ravinous says:

7:30am
usual oatmeal with ground flax seeds
3 boiled eggs

10:30am
protein shake with 1/2 teasp. l-glutamine

1:30pm
2 cups pasta
1/2 chicken - about 300g

4pm
protein shake (same as one above)

8pm
1 can of pink salmon (I hate this stuff, but it's all I have left)
2 cups pasta

11pm
protein shake with whatever I can find to put in it...

LOL

On February 25th, 2008 Stevers says:

Bro how much are eggs there? Its effing ridiculous here in the US. $2 a DOZEN!!! Eggs used to be the cheapest source of protein at like $0.80/dozen, now they've more than doubled, nearly tripled in price. Its so ridiculous I get p.o.'d just thinkin about it!!ARGG!!!

LOL its cheaper to buy a huge bag of chicken BREASTS with like 12 breasts in it than to get 3 dozen eggs they lay..

Eggs

On February 25th, 2008 Ravinous says:

Well, the eggs I buy come in boxes of 18 & I use 3 eggs per day. I think each box costs around $4. But you're right! Everything is friggin expensive, more than with you guys. Imagine, the 6lb cytogainer costs about US$30 at GNC in the US. Here, that shit costs CAD$69. But it's unbelievable that 3lbs of beef rib-eye costs only CAD$6 here, even cheaper than chicken breasts when I compare them. Thats why I went on a beef binge a few weeks ago before that cancer thing you mentioned. But since I took 3 weeks off beef, i'll be going back on it as soon as I go shopping tomorrow.